Agenda and minutes

Staffordshire Police, Fire and Crime Panel - Monday 25th October 2021 2:00pm

Venue: Council Chamber, County Buildings, Stafford

Contact: Mandy Pattinson  Email:


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Declarations of interest

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No declarations of interest were made at the meeting.


Minutes of the meetings held on 23 September and 12 October 2021 pdf icon PDF 229 KB

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RESOLVED – That the minutes of the Panel meetings held on the 23 September and 12 October 2021 be confirmed as a correct record and signed by the Chairman.


Decisions published by the Police, Fire and Crime Commissioner (PFCC)

No decisions have been published on the Commissioners website.

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No decisions had been made since the last meeting.



Questions to the PFCC from Members of the Public pdf icon PDF 281 KB

Questions to the Commissioner are invited from members of the public who live or work in Staffordshire.  Notice of questions must be received by no later than three clear working days before the Panel meeting.  More information on where and how to submit a question can be found at

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Implementation of the reforms to the Police Misconduct & Complaints Regulations 2020 pdf icon PDF 443 KB

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The report updated the Panel on the implementation of Police Misconduct and Complaints Reforms, as set out in the Police (Complaints and Misconduct) Regulations 2020 which came into place on 1 February 2020.  The Staffordshire Commissioner became the Appropriate Authority for reviews (formally known as appeals). The Commissioner now receives all reviews unless they are about a senior officer, criminal or misconduct proceedings, or article 2/3 (Human Rights), the review body for these is the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC).


During the period 1 February 2020 and 31 December 2020, the Commissioner’s office had received 52 reviews.   50 requests had been completed, 1 was withdrawn and 1 had been identified as the wrong review body and should have been sent to the IOPC.  During the period 1 January 2021 and 30 September 2021, the Commissioner’s office had received 49 reviews.   48 requests had been accepted for review, 1 was refused as out of time.


The report outlined the lessons learned from the reviews and also the findings of the Ethics and Transparency Audit Panel, who had conducted a thematic review of complaints.


RESOLVED: The Panel noted the contents of the report.


Police and Crime Plan pdf icon PDF 427 KB

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The Commissioner updated the panel on the progress made in developing his Police and Crime Plan.  He emphasised that there would be wide consultation with both partners and other bodies and that he was particularly interested in hearing from the public. 


The Panel thanked Mr Adams for his presentation and after a number of questions the following information was noted:

·       The consultation period was for 4 weeks.  The panel were concerned that this was a short period of time for such an important document.  It was explained that the consultation would be extensive and therefore hopefully effective. 

·       Hard to reach groups such as BME groups would be encouraged to comment on the plan, however, there was no intention as yet to translate the plan into other languages.

·       All forms of social media would be used to reach as many people as possible.  Paper copies would be available if needed.

·       Young people were being encouraged to share their opinion.  Schools and Colleges were part of the consultation programme.

·       All Parish, District, County and City Councillors would be contacted.

·       Road safety was in both the Police and Crime and Fire and Rescue plans as it was a significant issue in the County.

·       Early intervention and clear expectations were needed with partners in order to reduce people entering the penal system and reduce reoffending.

·       Delivery Plans would be developed to ensure that the priorities would be achieved.  These would be performance monitored regularly and could be considered by the Panel when looking at the priorities in detail.

·       Following a question on how process could be quickened, for example in the Courts system, it was explained that partnerships would need to work together to ensure that backlogs were cleared and more effective ways of working could be introduced for example, ensuring that all appropriate documents were available on time to ensure adjournments weren’t required, or plea bargaining done in advance etc.  The Commissioner felt that although he may not have control over a particular organisation, he could direct influence and could hopefully bring people together.

·       It was acknowledged that some partnerships had not always worked effectively in the past and had not delivered on targets.  The Commissioner felt that the right partnerships had to be established and this took time.  Service demand also changed over time and being able to forge new relationships/agreements quickly was important.

·       The Commissioners Plans would work alongside the Police force priority plans.  The Police and Crim Plan would set out clear expectations with clear achievable targets.

·       The new Chief Constable and Chief Fire Officer had been engaged in the process of drawing up the draft plans.

·       The aim was to reduce the number of crimes and it was acknowledged that this meant overall levels of crime and not simply reducing numbers in some areas by redirecting effort/resources leading to an increase in other types of crime or in other geographical areas.

·       Witness and Victim Support Services would be delivered with a number of partners/agencies.  New structures may be developed  ...  view the full minutes text for item 34.


Fire and Rescue Plan pdf icon PDF 508 KB

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The Commissioner informed the Panel that the Draft Fire and Rescue Plan had much commonality with the previous plan but included new challenges such as changing legislation/regulations following Grenfell Tower and climate change and environmental threats such as flooding and fire. 


The following issues were discussed:

·       The Panel were reassured that the Priorities in the plan covered the areas they expected to see and ensured that new challenges such as responding to the Pandemic where still achievable.

·       Why retained Fire Officers in the South of the County work out of the West Midland stations.  It was explained that this was mainly due to calls being dealt with through the West Midlands control centre and officers were deployed from the closest and most available resource.  

·       Relationships with neighbouring authorities/bodies was essential and good practice, but a Staffordshire delivery approach and knowledge from local officers was invaluable.

·       There may be a need to redesign jobs to meet the new challenges.  The relationship with unions was strong and open discussions would take place to discuss terms and conditions if they needed to change. 

·       Local fire officers could be invited to local community meetings to offer advice and answer concerns particularly concerning prevention. 


Following a question on Fire and Police vehicles carrying defibrillators, the panel were informed that the possibility of providing defibrillator equipment on response vehicles would be looked at.


RESOLVED: That the Commissioners Fire and Rescue Draft plan be noted.



Questions to the PFCC by Panel Members

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No further questions were asked.


Dates of Future Meetings and Work Programme pdf icon PDF 137 KB

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